RH
9 juli 2025
Yoav Ben-Dov wrote the best book about the Marseille Tarot, and these are the cards he reconstructed. Excellent work, not as fanciful as Jodorowsky's (one of Ben-Dov's teachers), but, like his book, rich, precise, and... effective.
sand
2 mei 2025
Un jeu vraiment parfait ! je m'en sert de tarot d'étude pour apprendre le marseille, il est formidable , le canon traditionnel est parfaitement respecté, les couleurs sont parfaites.. Un tarot idéal pour qui voudrait commencer à se familiariser avec le tarot de marseille traditionnel. Un petit mot sur la qualité des cartes, elle est juste parfaite, épaisse mais pas trop, en tout cas, des cartes qui vont résister dans le temps et vous suivront durant de longues années !Un superbe travail de restauration du regretté Dr Ben Dov .
Crow-Conspirator
24 oktober 2024
[FINAL EDIT: This is the chattiest deck I’ve ever met! Start a one-a-day card habit and be prepared for a conversation over several days full of insight on whatever is going on in your life. Might want to keep a jounal; Amazon has some beautiful ones available and what the heck, treat myourself to a fountain pen, too. Tarot with styleSince everything is a sign, “Wild Hares” (cards that fall out during shuffling) don’t go back into the deck. They are incorporated into the simple spread.. BTW, you might consider the author’s and this reviewers advice not to riffle the deck. Whatever other advantages not riffling offers, the alternate, more leisurely method works better on these stiffer cards. Just a thought.) I have been comparing the TdM and RWS and, without taking anything away from the latter, I believe the TdM is a franker depiction of the Western Mystery Tradtion. There are wonderful motifs and visual echoes. Look at le’Bateleur on the left of la’Temperence. Separated at birth? Take in all the details.]My first Tarot deck was a Tarot de Marseille when I was a kid playing around. Later, I got "serious" and obtained a Rider Waite Smith deck (and various clones) and studied with BOTA. At 60 years of age, I consider that behind me and am more interested in Tarot as a creative spark and tool for psychological self-examination. I am not impressed with the forced correspondences between the Tarot and various popular esoteric systems. So, probably influenced by Meditations on the Tarot (the two-volume German edition of which can be seen on St. Pope John Paul II's desk in a photograph) I decided to look into the Tarot again: the Tarot de Marseille. Also, I have spent time in Marseilles and it has a certain charming and mysterious ambience, or at least I thought so.I wanted an authentic TdM and the Ben-dov deck is a clean reproduction of the 18th Century Convers deck. I have read of TdM decks that deliberately retain “mistakes.” There are subtle oddities, to be sure, but nothing too eye-catching. One example is the strange way the book held by La Papesse seems to cast a shadow that blurs our perception of the material world. For whatever reason, the trumps, especially, sometimes combine two separate realitiesThe old images, freed from the imaginations of Waite and Smith, are remarkably fresh today. The cards have clean details and vibrant (if limited) colors. They seem to speak directly to me, rather than as a mere collection of disparate esoteric lore. They appeal more to the subconscious than the conscious intellect, in my opinion.Who is this Le Bateleur fellow? Well, what's he look like? A street performer, a sleight-of-hand artist, possibly a cheat—the man who invented three-card monte! He's a far cry from the adept in the RWS deck, striking a painfully obvious esoteric pose. And, yet, is there more to him than meets the eye? That's for you to find out by spending some time with him. Put him on your left of Tenperance. The writer of Meditations on the Tarot (probably the essential companion to any TdM deck) finds plenty to say about him, but does not spill the soup.If you're unfamiliar with the TdM, the pip cards aren't illustrated in the way they are in the RWS deck. That is both liberating and a source of initial confusion. They aren't even sort of suggestive of meaning as in the Thoth deck, according to my ancient recollection.[Edit: this is not entirely correct. Since this review was submitted, I do find clues, although they are often subtle. To take one example, the Four of Swords seems to show a large, cut-off and bent branch protected by the familiar curved swords. This is a nice fit for the typical RWS meaning. The vines and leaves and poppy pods (?!) often seem to provide clues. Another example is the Three of Cups which seems to visually echo two not-shown hearts from the Two of Cups: one small, another much bigger. Ben-Dov’s book on the TdM is useful in this regard, if you don’t mind “cheating.“ The above two examples came from his book, I believe, but I fill at least a couple of pages with observations when I take a turn with a random card each day. I don’t do divination, if it matters, if one means seeking to know the future. At my age, I don’t want to know!]So, unless you want to throw traditional meanings to the wind and go with open ones, a familiarity with RWS is probably useful. (The LWB does include diviniatory meanings, although there are some departures from what you might be used to.)[ANOTHER EDIT: The preferred method for TdM seems to be more intuitive, i.e. the “French School.” Noting where figures are looking, tiny details and even “printing errors” that are striking, and so forth. On the other hand, the French school often uses only the trumps. I will probably never entirely escape the RWS LWB nor do I want to and they will probably color my TdM meanings (it’s all baked in). Where I have departed I did so long before (“journey by water” anyone?) I think it is only fair to point out that the GD at least possessed (whether it was used I can’t say) a very complex layout that I believe was fairly intuitive and incorporated the way a figure (upright or reversed) was looking. In other words, if you like nothing better than to throw LWBs to the wind or, rather, value their tradition, you shouldn’t let the absence of pictorial pips keep you from this marvelous deck. Each pip is different in detail and once you get to know them, you’ll probably find cues to RWS—the brain is amazing at stuff like that. I think everyone eventually learns that when you throw down three cards they tell a story—and it might not have a lot to do with traditional meanings.]The beautiful thing about the Tarot is that there is probably no one right way to use them.I can't comment on other TdM decks, but the quality of printing, the cleanness of the lines, the vibrancy of the bright colors, the quality of the card stock, and the authenticity made this one just what I was looking for. [PENULTIMENT EDIT: These are some pretty stiff cards that are difficult to riffle. In fact, today, I had a freak "riffling accident" and managed to crease a card, which requires a deck replacement. Oh, dear, Amazon is going to be tired of my edits, but in all fairness, I remembered I was trying to riffle on a slick glass surface. I am confident that had I tried the same on a surface with a little friction, perhaps cloth, I would not have had my cardastrophe.]